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Re: [Xen-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Call for agenda items for September 5th Community Call @ 15:00 UTC
- To: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xxxxxxxxxx>, Rich Persaud <persaur@xxxxxxxxx>, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
- From: Juergen Gross <jgross@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:06:15 +0200
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- Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 08:06:26 +0000
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On 05.09.19 10:00, Lars Kurth wrote:
On 05/09/2019, 08:50, "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 05.09.2019 09:41, Rich Persaud wrote:
> If Xen community call topics are limited to escalations of xen-devel
threads, then a new thread can be created for this topic. Xen community calls have
also provided real-time, interactive feedback on candidate proposals, along with
guidance on areas which need documentation before a formal proposal is made to
xen-devel. Such agenda items are typically covered after all series and priority
topics have been addressed.
I'll certainly listen to what others think, but I have to confess that
on such prior instances I was already on the edge of requesting that
time not be spent in such a way. Please recall that calls, other than
mails, take everybody's time, and exactly at the same time. Therefore
my personal opinion is that topics on calls should be limited to items
which cannot be resolved by other means, or which are certain to need
(almost) everybody's attention right away.
I disagree with you on this one.
So yes, it is true that a call costs everyone time. But it's a fixed cost once
per month
* Something experimental could be posted on the list and it may take everyone
more time to read and respond than a 5 minute early discussion on the call
* Also, of course everyone has the option to drop out or not attend a call
based on the agenda
* If we had more urgent stuff to discuss all the time and we would have to
displace urgent discussions to cover discussions which can wait, I may agree
with you, but this is not currently the case
I will look at the agenda though and re-structure it in such a way that this is
clear
IMPORTANT: I had a few additions to the agenda, but do not know WHO added
these. I believe one was Juergen. Who added the items related to MA Youngs
patches? And if you add series to discuss can you please add URLs or message IDs
Done.
Juergen
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