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Re: [Xen-devel] [Qemu-devel] Question about xen disk unplug support for ahci missed in qemu



Il 14/10/2015 13:06, Stefano Stabellini ha scritto:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Kevin Wolf wrote:
[ CC qemu-block ]

Am 13.10.2015 um 19:10 hat Stefano Stabellini geschrieben:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, John Snow wrote:
On 10/13/2015 11:55 AM, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
I added ahci disk support in libxl and using it for week seems that was
ok, after a reply of Stefano Stabellini seems that xen disk unplug
support only ide disks:
http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=commitdiff;h=679f4f8b178e7c66fbc2f39c905374ee8663d5d8

Today Paul Durrant told me that even if pv disk is ok also with ahci and
the emulated one is offline can be a risk:
http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/win-pv-devel/2015-10/msg00021.html


I tried to take a fast look in qemu code but I not understand the needed
thing for add the xen disk unplug support also for ahci, can someone do
it or tell me useful information for do it please?

Thanks for any reply and sorry for my bad english.

I'm not entirely sure what features you need AHCI to support in order
for Xen to be happy.

I'd guess hotplugging, but where I get confused is that IDE disks don't
support hotplugging either, so I guess I'm not sure sure what you need.

Stefano, can you help bridge my Xen knowledge gap?
Hi John,

we need something like hw/i386/xen/xen_platform.c:unplug_disks but that
can unplug AHCI disk. And by unplug, I mean "make disappear" like
pci_piix3_xen_ide_unplug does for ide.
Maybe this would be the right time to stop the craziness with your
hybrid IDE/xendisk setup. It's a horrible thing that would never happen
on real hardware.
I would be quite happy to stop (or even get rid of) the craziness.


Can't you just teach SeaBIOS how to deal with your PV disks and then
only add that to your VM and forget about IDE/AHCI? I mean, that's how
it's done for virtio-blk, and it doesn't involve any insanities like
ripping out non-hotpluggable devices.
Teaching SeaBIOS to deal with PV disks can be done, in fact we already
support PV disks in OVMF. It is possible to boot Windows with OVMF
without any IDE disks (patch pending for libxl to create a VM without
emulated IDE disks).

However we have to be honest that implementing PV disk support in
SeaBIOS is a different magnitude of effort compared to implementing AHCI
"unplug".

I would suggest Fabio to avoid AHCI disks altogether and just use OVMF
with PV disks only and Anthony's patch to libxl to avoid creating any
IDE disks: http://marc.info/?l=xen-devel&m=144482080812353.

Would that work for you?

Thanks for the advice, I tried it:
https://github.com/Fantu/Xen/commits/rebase/m2r-testing-4.6

I installed W10 pro 64 bit with ide disk, installed the win pv drivers and after changed to xvdX instead hdX, is the only change needed, right? Initial boot is ok (ovmf part about pv disks seems ok) but windows boot fails with problem with pv drivers.
In attachment full qemu log with xen_platform trace and domU's xl cfg.

Someone have windows domUs with ovmf and pv disks only working? If yes can tell me the difference to understand what can be the problem please?



Hm... How does a reboot of a machine that had its IDE already removed
actually work? Do you restart the qemu process on reboot?
Restart QEMU, yes.

Attachment: qemu-dm-W10UEFI.log
Description: Text document

Attachment: W10UEFI.cfg
Description: Text document

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