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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH for-xen-4.5 v4 00/18] xen: Break multiboot (v1) dependency and add multiboot2 support



On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:08:32PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 23/10/14 11:19, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>> On 17.10.14 at 17:49, <daniel.kiper@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> What is your main concern here (beside that it is big patch series)?
> > The size alone is not the reason. As already said, I'm not convinced
> > that the approach you use is ultimately the right one (and Andrew
> > seems to agree, at least to some degree). And then, looking at your
> > track record, apart from some kexec (and even older tool stack)
> > work there hasn't been much you've been doing earlier particularly
> > with the kind of fragile initial boot code. Hence I think the only
> > viable route for you to get MB2 code merged is to just add it
> > _without_ largely re-writing all sorts of other code. Once that
> > happened we can then go and see whether the consolidation you're
> > thinking of is (a) the right approach and (b) you're the one to carry
> > it out.
> >
> > Jan
> >
>
> To add to this a little.  I still can't see a reasonable justification
> for the new "multiboot data" type.  I think it would be perfectly
> reasonable keep the multiboot1/2 distinction up until the boot_info
> stage, and cast the pointer based on multiboot magic.

multiboot1 and multiboot2 are completely different things. If we do what
you suggest then at least we will be forced to complicate assembly code
parsing cmdline in xen/arch/x86/boot/cmdline.S. We could also stay with
multiboot1 stuff but then we will be forced to put all stuff which we are
able to put in multiboot1. However, we are not able to put at least EFI_HANDLE
and EFI_SYSTEM_TABLE from multiboot2 (which are a must on EFI; maybe we
want other data from multiboot2 protocol too) in multiboot1 struct because
there is not designed place for that. It means that we must add another
global variables which will appear from nowhere in Xen code (as usual
in case of global variables).

I understand that gains are not clearly visible at this stage of development
because there is lack of relevant multiboot2 + EFI code on top of this patches.
However, I hope that above explanation and earlier ones will clear some
of your doubts.

Guys, if you wish I can do what Jan suggest. However, personally I think
that it will complicate things more which are already complicated enough.
I can understand that Xen was tied to multiboot1 protocol at early stage of
development. Even I am able to understand that this thing was not changed
during introduction of EFI code. However, I think that right know, when we
introduce third boot protocol, mutliboot2, there is not longer any excuse to
have it build in early and in main Xen code especially. So, IMO we should
do all cleanups and fixes first and then put all multiboot2 + EFI stuff
on top of it. If we reverse the order then I do not believe that cleanup
will be done in foreseeable future.

Daniel

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