[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] xend deprecation
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:29:07AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 23:06 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:03:46AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> > > On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 13:32 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote: >> > > > Live migration between a system running xend to a system that doesn't >> > > > support xend would be a nice-to-have. That probably means some support >> > > > for SXP parsing either in libxl or in some compatibility tool. >> > > >> > > This already works by using xl on the source side, e.g. a guest started >> > > with xend on 4.1 can be migrated with 4.1's xl to 4.2. >> > > >> > > http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-08/msg02191.html >> > >> > xl doesn't run everywhere that we need it to. >> >> Details please, or we aren't going to be able to even think about how to >> solve this for you. >> >> BTW You can also do a xend migration to e.g. 4.2 (using the xend whichis >> in 4.2) and the use 4.2's xl to do a localhost migrate or a second >> remote migrate to another 4.2 system. >> >> xend's deprecation has been on the cards, and widely known, for several >> releases now. It is time to quit stalling and start moving. I intend to >> post a patch deleting it as soon as 4.4 is out the door. > > And I think I might have to lobby hard against removing it. > > There are issues that are stopping us from using it: > > - No status in xl list -l when only dom0 is present. > - 'xl list -l' says 'Domain name must be specified' even though the '-l' > is for 'Output all VM details' > - xl list -l for PV guest has bug: it’s not formated S-expression text. > - No console in xl list -l, so can't get tty console port. > - xl uses SSH for migration. We need SSL daemon or socat like xend has. > > Those should be fixed at some point :-) Problem is that other things > keep on popping up on the radar and hence we end up using xend. Uum, when were you going to report these? A lot of us were under the impression that xl behaved sufficiently like xend for anyone who cared. Maybe we should make an announcement (on blog, xen-users, xen-devel, and xen-announce) that there has been a proposal to make 4.4 the last release with xend, and so it's important to report all bugs / missing features of xl so we can get them fixed by the 4.4 release? -George _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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