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On 24/05/13 14:56, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
Il 23/05/2013 18:07, George Dunlap ha
scritto:
On 23/05/13 15:58, Fabio Fantoni
wrote:
Il 23/05/2013 16:26, George
Dunlap ha scritto:
On 23/05/13 15:17, Fabio
Fantoni wrote:
Il 23/05/2013 12:54, George
Dunlap ha scritto:
On 23/05/13 11:39, Andrew Cooper wrote:
On 23/05/13 11:36, Fabio Fantoni
wrote:
Il 23/05/2013 09:39, Jan
Beulich ha scritto:
On 22.05.13 at 18:54,
George Dunlap <george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 22/05/13 17:30, Pasi KÃrkkÃinen wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at
04:05:27PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
Hmm, for testing, can we use cpuid to mask out
SSE,
and then try qxl ?
That had occurred to me -- Andrew / Jan, do you
know which flag might
disable this particular instruction?
I guess we could try just disabling all the SSE
instructions.
movdqu is an SSE2 instruction, so disabling bit 26
of CPUID EDX
output to EAX=1 input.
Can you explain better please?
Should I add this to test it?
cpuid="host,sse=0,sse2=0,ssse3=0,sse4_1=0,sse4_2=0,eax=1"
It will likely not work. SSE2 is an architectural
requirement for 64bit.
It means that 64bit code may assume the presence of
SSE2. Xen amongst
other software does make this assumption.
It might work if he's using 32-bit.
Fabio, as I said in my initial e-mail, you need to:
1. Run "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on your dom0
2. Look at the line that says "features:"
3. Find all the things that contain "sse" > 2 (sse2,
ssse3, &c)
4. Set them to 0 in the "cpuid" field like above.
Every processor will be a bit different -- you can't
just copy mine and expect it to work.
Don't include "eax=1" -- Jan is thinking of a different
interface.
Â-George
Tried with Raring (ubuntu 13.04) 32bit...
in cfg:
cpuid="host,sse=0,sse2=0,ssse3=0,sse4_1=0,sse4_2=0"
# xl create /etc/xen/RARING.cfg
Parsing config from /etc/xen/RARING.cfg
while parsing CPUID flag: "sse4_1=0":
 error #2: unknown CPUID flag name
while parsing CPUID flag: "sse4_2=0":
 error #2: unknown CPUID flag name
Right -- in that case this is a minor bug in libxl.Â
(Actually I got the same result, I just didn't notice the
error messages -- sorry about that.)
In domU:
# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep sse
flagsÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic
sep mtrr pge mca cmov
Âpat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr ht nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc
pni cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt
tsc_deadline_timer hypervisor lahf_lm
What should I do to have sse4 disabled?
For now with sse, sse2 and sse3 disabled the performance
is very very low (even without qxl), while performances
are acceptables with SSE.
I got the same results with qxl card and qxl driver
loaded, but now at least X and qemu didn't crash.
Sorry, same result as what? Does the X driver work or not?
X qxl driver works with sse disabled (tried also with the
correct sse4.1 and sse4.2 on cpuid) but performance are too
bad, even without qxl, therefore it seems that the performance
problem is only due to sse being disabled.
Well that's good news anyway -- it means that qxl as a feature
is actually within reach. :-)
Can you try it just with sse2 disabled?
Tried with only sse2 disabled: Raring domU did not complete the
O.S. loading and qemu did not crash.
Qemu log without error and unable to connect with xl console.
Same result with only sse (1) enabled.
What should I do for debugging in this case with nothing on logs?
Should I recompile qemu with "--enable-debug" and/or should I do
other things?
I don't think these can really be classified as bugs -- it's
perfectly reasonable for software to expect to be running on an
actual processor that someone made; so if you end up setting a CPUID
that doesn't match any real-life processor, and that breaks some
assumptions, I think there's nothing we can really do about that.
It was always a long-shot that this "disable sse instructions" thing
would work -- I'm surprised in fact that disabling *all* sse
instructions actually ran, and not at all surprised that the result
was incredibly slow. But since it's easy to try, there's no harm in
giving it a shot. Too bad it didn't work out.
Â-George
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