[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [Xen-users] (strange idea) unfriendly migration
Good day. As we all know, xen requires assist from VM to migrate it. If VM will acts wrong during migration, it will crash, or behave strangely until reboot (nice sample - default -xen kernel in lenny). We need to accept changes in domU during migration: other domain id, new vbd/vif and so on. This fine until we talks about friendly VM. But if VM is not very friendly? For example, VM's user can upgrade kernel to different -xen, which one working fine with normal mode, but incompatible with migration? (Pretty typical situation for any kind of cloud environment or hosting). Here I have two ideas: 1) We can make HVM domain for Xen (recursive) with PV-only guests. If we migrate manageable Xen with friendly dom0, it will keep unfriendly (wild) domU working without knowing about migration. 2) Stop. Do we really needs a big and serious dom0 for 'inner xen'? Here main idea: If we create HVM-based overlay for PV-guest to keep thing unchanged, we can make migration much simpler. I'm not perfectly know xen internals, but here things I know to be changed during migration: 1) Wall-clock 2) TSC 3) event channel 4) dom-id 5) vif/vbd entries in xenstore. And if we make very small and very fine working proxy level between guest and xen, we can free guest from thinking about Very Nontrivial Things. What proxy helper shall do? Let's call every thing changed during migration a 'migration point'. So, helper shall take every migration point from xen and dom0 (from xenstore and xen memory areas) and convert them to matching domU migration point with simple condition: Migration point of domU shall never be changed during VM power cycle. Note: not a 'domain life' (migrating vm changing one domain to other). Again: values in xenstore from domU is absolute and shall be never changed. And from Xen/dom0 point of view proxy helper will do thing smoothly will full compability with xen without needs to be adopted to different OS'es and kernel versions (no move war PV vs -xen, etc). This will make thing very xen-like: we move all logic away from domU to separate area (note: helper have no more rights than domU, so no more code to privileged domain). Scheme of works: dom0 ----- XEN ----- [proxy] xenstore ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[proxy]======[PV-domain] blktap,etc ---, ~~~~ - changed during migration ========= - permanent during migration. ----- wBR, George. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
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