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Omer,
CPU affinity is which CPUs/cores a VCPU is allowed to use, while the
CPU/core in use can vary if the CPU affinity allows for more than one
possibility. That said, if you pin dom0 VCPU0 to a CPU/core of your choice,
then it won't change like you have observed, and after thinking about it, I
believe I do pin my dom0 VCPUs manually with xm vcpu-pin commands in
/etc/rc.local or something. Additionally, if you only need to run one domU,
you could still let dom0 use 3 CPUs/cores without it interfering with the
CPU/core assigned to the domU, my example was assuming you would run 3 domUs
and the dom0. I am not exceptionally familiar with scheduling, but I wouldn't
think it would come in to play when a CPU/core isn't being shared among
multiple dom(0/U)s. You might want to try to verify that, though, or perhaps
someone else on the list can confirm. Depending on what your research regards,
it is important to note that even with PV domUs with isolated CPUs/cores, there
will probably be some performance loss, though I should hope it would be
negligible in such a configuration. Good luck with your project,
Dustin
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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 06:19
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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] VCPU and CPU Manipulation
Hello Dustin,
Thanks a lot for the detailed explaination. It indeed clarified my
understanding about VCPU/CPUs.
What I have understood in a nutshell is, please correct me if its wrong, that
"what matters is the CPU core and CPU affinity a VCPU is using rather than just
the VCPU number; thus all the domains could have the same VCPU #, let's say 0,
but as long as they are pinned and restricted to a particular core then they
are restricted to only that explicity core".
Its a valid argument that to enhance resource/cpu utilization, one should not
bother too much about which core is being used by which domU. This is
particulary important in situations where perfomance is the key criteria. But
in my project, and for LHC grid computing; its a policy decision that each grid
job will be allowed to use only one core per CPU (not because of performance
reasons but rather resource accounting reasions). In a non-virtualized
environment, this is handled by the Batch system configuration but if the job
is executed on a virutal machine, which I am is researching on, then comes the
question of core utilization for a VM. Thus I stumbled upon this issue of
tinkering with vcpu-set/vcpu-pin.
To achieve this, i first modified that /etc/xen/xend-config and restricted the
dom0 to use only one CPU. Now my dom0 is only using one CPU while all other
dom0 instances for each core are in --p "paused state" with no CPU allocated to
them. Then I launched my VM with the modified config file which had vcpus=1,
cpus="0". xm list shows the following:
[root@~]# xm vcpu-list
Name ID VCPUs CPU State Time(s) CPU Affinity
CernVM 1 0 0 -b- 11.3 0
Domain-0 0 0 3 r-- 111.5 any cpu
Domain-0 0 1 - --p 12.1 any cpu
Domain-0 0 2 - --p 5.3 any cpu
Domain-0 0 3 - --p 2.7 any cpu
I had arrived the same state earlier by using vcpu-pin/vcpu-set but following
the above process (as you advised too) its much simpler and cleaner.
Interestingly, I observed that before the launching the domU, dom0 was using
CPU 2 and later on it switched to CPU 3. But I guess that's OK as its not using
CPU 0.
So the VCPU/CPU is sorted out, what about the scheduling of these CPUs either
using sedf or credit-scheduler? Once a domU is restricted to one core, then I
wanted to further optimize its performance by modifying its weight using
credit-scheduler as the application to be run in the domU is memory/cpu
intensive.
Thanks,
Omer
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Dustin Henning <Dustin.Henning@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Omer,
See my response following your initial post.
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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 04:51
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Subject: [Xen-users] VCPU and CPU Manipulation
Hi,
I have a dual core SMP machine ( in total 4 cores). I have been trying to set
restrict vcpu/cpus for my domU to one core/one vpcu but it have not fully
worked. As there are two commands "xm vcpu-set" and "xm vcpu-pin". By using
these commands, i have observed that the sequence in which they are used plays
a role. e.g. I have the following state in the beginning:
[root@lxb ~]# xm vcpu-list
Name ID VCPUs CPU State Time(s) CPU Affinity
==== == ===== ==== ==== ====== === =====
Domain-0 0 0 3 r-- 5593.4 any cpu
Domain-0 0 1 1 -b- 15361.9 any cpu
Domain-0 0 2 0 -b- 10137.5 any cpu
Domain-0 0 3 - --p 78.9 any cpu
test_lxb 20 0 2 -b- 21169.0 any cpu
What I want to achieve is that my domU (test_lxb) uses one VCPU pinned to one
CPU. In the above state, both my domU and dom0 are using VCPU 0 (which is
pinned to use either CPU 3 or 2.) After few "vcpu-set" and "vcpu-pin", I reach
the following stage where dom0 is pinned to CPU 3 and domU (test_lxb) is pinned
to CPU 2:
[root@lxb ~]# xm vcpu-list
Name ID VCPUs CPU State Time(s) CPU Affinity
Name ID VCPUs CPU State Time(s) CPU Affinity
==== == ===== ==== ==== ====== ========
Domain-0 0 0 3 r-- 5600.4 3
Domain-0 0 1 3 -b- 15372.5 3
Domain-0 0 2 3 -b- 10140.0 3
Domain-0 0 3 - --p 78.9 3
test_lxb 20 0 2 -b- 21169.5 2
But domU is still using VCPU 0 which is also used by my domU; now i would like
to restrict VCPU 0 to CPU 2 only for domU only...I am wondering how to achieve
this last mile?
Any ideas? Thanks for you help in advance!
Regards
--
Omer
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CERN -- European Organization for Nuclear
Research, IT Department, CH-1211,
Geneva 23, Switzerland
You have misinterpreted the meaning VCPU numbers. VCPU 0 is the first
virtual CPU for any domain, VCPU 1 is the second virtual CPU for any domain,
etcetera. Additional single VCPU domUs will have a VCPU 0 as well. Each VCPU
0 is actually a separate VCPU; they are all identified as CPU 0 to a different
domain, and the VCPU identification just tells you what the domU sees them as
(minus the V). CPU indicates which CPU/core a VCPU is currently using, and CPU
Affinity indicates which ones it is allowed to use. Furthermore, for
performance reasons, if you want Dom0 to only use one CPU/core, you should
assign it only one VCPU (which will be 0, so for what you are trying to do, you
probably ultimately want output more like this):
Name ID VCPU CPU State Time(s) CPU Affinity
Domain-0 0 0 0 r-- 5600.4 0
test_lxb 1 0 1 -b- 21169.5 1
test_abc 2 0 2 -b- 21169.5 2
test_def 3 0 3 -b- 21169.5 3
Obviously state and time will be variable. Additionally, which core/cpu
is used for which domain shouldn't matter much. Regarding getting to this
state, the number of VCPUs dom0 has initially (and which CPUs/cores they use)
is configurable (probably /etc/xen/xend-config). The same is true for domUs.
That said, see the example configs in /etc/xen for more info on how to do this,
but you should be able to cause each domU to start up with the CPU/core you
want it to use, and then you won't really need to use vcpu-set or vcpu-pin.
Finally, if I don't bring it up, someone else probably will, the idea behind
virtualization is to better use available processing power. With that in mind,
your domUs may not each need their own full CPU/core. (For instance, I have a
quad-core with four HVMs that have one vcpu each, where each uses a separate
core, and then my dom0 has four VCPUs, where each uses a separate core; even
this isn't by any means fully utilizing the hardware, but I am more concerned
with maintaining optimal performance of my HVMs). Good luck with your project,
Dustin
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