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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool - or "AMD availability" ;)
The CPU is of course not PIN-compatible. But due to HT 2.0 the mainboard developers can use the old "Bridge" Chips. So its _possible_ that HVM does not work. I am not sure, if there are changes needed in the additional equipment so that its working... Regards, Bigfoot29 Petersson, Mats wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marco >>Sent: 31 May 2006 07:25 >>To: jerry@xxxxxxx; xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool - or >>"AMD availability" ;) >> >>You are right. They are said to be on stocks for a couple of days now. >>But to tell the truth, at least here they aren't. Yes, there >>is the FX. >>The price alone tells you "hands off!". And yes, there is the >>3500+ and >>3800+ (single core). But who will use that? If you wanted to habe a >>3500+ you could and get the Stepping E's as well. The >>_interesting_ CPUs >>- named the X2 ones for server application use - are not >>delivered to the stores before 02.06.06 - what means another >>week waiting ;) >> >>As for your "no new motherboard" - I would be carefull there... >>basically they CAN use their old motherboard. Only changes >>needed are the other socket and more data lines to the memory. >>So there _could_ be problems. > > > As far as I'm aware, the new Socket AM2 is NOT compatible with older > socket 939 (and of course not 754). > > Of course, a 3500+ in Stepping F would only be useful if you either want > virtualization support, or want to use DDR2 memory. Both of these are > new features in the new revision of the processor, and not present (at > all) in the older stepping. > > -- > Mats > >>However, my X2 is already preordered. Can't wait getting my >>hands on them testing the HVM-capatibilities (what was the >>major reason buying that thing XD ) >> >>Regards, Bigfoot29 >> >> >>>Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 17:55:24 +0200 >>>From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx> >>>Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool >>>To: "Jerry Amundson" <jerry@xxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Message-ID: >> >><907625E08839C4409CE5768403633E0BA7FCB5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry >>>>Amundson >>>>Sent: 27 May 2006 16:53 >>>>To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool >>>> >>>>On Sat May 27 2006 08:26, Marco wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... >>>>>>http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors >>>>> >>>>>I have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing... >>>>>You can safely add "All AMD Athlon64 CPUs in a AM2 Socket >> >>(Stepping >> >>>>>F)" to the list. They rare all intend to have Pacifica on board. >>>>> >>>>>(Note: Athlon64, not Semperons. They are lacking exactly that >>>>>feature) >>>> >>>>I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision. >>>>I'd rather leave it TBD, and only include processors available for >>>>sale currently. >>>>Although the statement above is safe, as a new user I'd find it >>>>misleading as I might believe my current AMD Athlon64 CPU in a AM2 >>>>Socket (Stepping F) to be HVM-capable, only to end up with >> >>"Error: Not >> >>>>an HVM capable platform, we stop creating!" >>> >>> >>>They are available for sale now - ok, so your local Fry's >> >>or PC World >> >>>may not have any in stock, but they are available to buy from AMD. >>> >>>AMD's press-release: >>> >> >>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~1086 >> >>>05 >>>,00.html >>> >>>I managed to find at least one web-site that advertise the FX-62 >>>processor (and several other AM2 processors) for sale, so >> >>it appears >> >>>that it is possible to order them from retailers. >>> >> >>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?E >> >>>dp No=2207290&Sku=CP1-AM2-FX62&SRCCODE=CNETFEED&CMP=OTC-CNETFEED >>> >>>I have no connection with the Tigerdirect company, it's purely a >>>result of googling for FX-62, which is one of the AM2 processors. I >>>have no clue whether this is a good, bad or ugly retailer... >>> >>>All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have >>>SVM (please don't use Pacifica, as that's the internal >> >>code-name, and >> >>>it is under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are >>>"AMD Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the >>>latter shortened to SVM.) >>> >>>As the processor requires a new motherboard, there's less >> >>likelyhood >> >>>for the trouble that some people have had with Intel >> >>systems where the >> >>>enabling of VT doesn't work or isn't available... As far >> >>as I know, >> >>>there are no Rev F processors that doesn't have >> >>virtualization, aside >> >>>from the Sempron models (which is one of the >> >>differentiating factors >> >>>between Sempron and the more expensive models - not sure what else >>>besides the obvious cache size differences... Although I can't find >>>any list of differences and there's currently no AM2 >> >>docuementation on >> >>>the Web-site, besides the simple compare products pages, >> >>which don't >> >>>git much details, unfortunately). >>> >>>-- >>>Mats >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Xen-users mailing list >>Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
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