Re: [Xen-users] vmware inside Xen

[Tim Freeman <tfreeman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, 29 May 2005 15:20:14 +0200
"Claus R. F. Overbeck" <xen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Am Sonntag 29 Mai 2005 14:31 schrieb Steven Hand:
> > > I was not able to find any information on this in the FAQ so I put the
> > > question here: Is there any known problem running a vmware inside Xen?
> >
> > It's not possible, at least for now: guest systems (things which run
> > on top of Xen) need to be modified.
> 
> Ok, I thought it might run if I run a modified linux. Inside this linux i run 
> the vmware? But the hardware on which a vmware runs needs to be x86 which it 
> is not for a Xen domain, right?
> How about domain 0 then? Does it run there? Or does domain0 alo run on the Xen
> 
> architecture?
> 
> > The only ways this could work are:
> >
> >   1. VMware release a special version of their software which can
> >      run on Xen; not that likely I'd guess, though obviously up to
> >      them.
> 
> Ack, very unlikely, I think.
> 
> >   2. You use the new hardware features announced by Intel ("VT-x") or
> >      AMD ("Pacifica") to fully virtualize VMware. This will probably
> >      work just fine, but you'll need to wait until you can get your
> >      hands on the new chips...
> 
> Ok, I need it soon, so this won't work.
> 
> > In the meantime, you might try using 'wine' under xenlinux, or else
> > trying 'qemu'.
> 
> Wine will probably not work nicly (easily) for an IIS and .net stuff?
> (_They_ need that, not me ;-) )
> 
> The qemu accelerator will not run in Xen? So this is probably quite slow?
> 
> So as a conclusion there are these options for me:
> 1. vmware can run in domain 0 ??? (Does this work?)
> 2. I install user mode linux with one vmware in the host system.
> 3. Install a linux with several vmware systems on it.
> 4. Xen with one domain running qemu (From the quemu website I read that this 
> might not run well (stable) with some Windows versions?) The performance will 
> be quite low, I guess.
> 5. Same as 4 but use bochs instead of qemu. Which is better?
>       
> Is there any other solution (I would like one with Xen in it, as i found the 
> Demo CD rather cool)?

Win4LinPro runs in userspace now, it can run under Xen:

http://www.win4lin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=125

Tim



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