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Re: [PATCH] 9p/xen: mark 9p transport device as closing when removing it
- To: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx>, Ariadne Conill <ariadne@ariadne.space>, v9fs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- From: Jürgen Groß <jgross@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 09:14:15 +0100
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- Delivery-date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:14:28 +0000
- List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>
On 09.12.25 11:41, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
On 12/8/25 14:51, Ariadne Conill wrote:
We need to do this so that we can signal to the other end that the
device is being removed, so that it will release its claim on the
underlying memory allocation. Otherwise releasing the grant-table
entries is deferred resulting in a kernel oops since the pages have
already been freed.
I don't think this is sufficient. The backend can simply refuse
to release the grants. The frontend needs to ensure that the pages
are not freed until the grant table entries are freed. Right now,
the backend can cause a use-after-free in the frontend, and my
understanding of the Xen Project's security policy is that this is
a security vulnerability in the frontend code.
My instinct is that the core Xen code should take a reference on
each page before granting it to another domain, and not release that
reference until the pages are no longer granted. This should prevent
any use-after-free problems if I understand Linux core MM correctly.
I looked at this in detail now.
I don't think we have a security bug right now, but the interfaces regarding
granting pages to other domains should probably be reworked like you suggest.
Currently it is the caller who needs to handle page references correctly,
while this should be done by the grant handling (having to either issue
get_page() or to pass NULL for the page pointer, in case you don't want the
underlying page to be freed by gnttab_end_foreign_access(), is far from
intuitive).
Juergen
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