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Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] mm: introduce local state for lazy_mmu sections
- To: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- From: David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 13:54:59 +0200
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- Delivery-date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 11:55:19 +0000
- List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>
On 09.09.25 13:45, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 12:09:48PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 09.09.25 11:40, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 11:07:36AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 08.09.25 09:39, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
arch_{enter,leave}_lazy_mmu_mode() currently have a stateless API
(taking and returning no value). This is proving problematic in
situations where leave() needs to restore some context back to its
original state (before enter() was called). In particular, this
makes it difficult to support the nesting of lazy_mmu sections -
leave() does not know whether the matching enter() call occurred
while lazy_mmu was already enabled, and whether to disable it or
not.
This patch gives all architectures the chance to store local state
while inside a lazy_mmu section by making enter() return some value,
storing it in a local variable, and having leave() take that value.
That value is typed lazy_mmu_state_t - each architecture defining
__HAVE_ARCH_ENTER_LAZY_MMU_MODE is free to define it as it sees fit.
For now we define it as int everywhere, which is sufficient to
support nesting.
...
{
+ lazy_mmu_state_t lazy_mmu_state;
...
- arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
+ lazy_mmu_state = arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
...
- arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
+ arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode(lazy_mmu_state);
...
}
* In a few cases (e.g. xen_flush_lazy_mmu()), a function knows that
lazy_mmu is already enabled, and it temporarily disables it by
calling leave() and then enter() again. Here we want to ensure
that any operation between the leave() and enter() calls is
completed immediately; for that reason we pass LAZY_MMU_DEFAULT to
leave() to fully disable lazy_mmu. enter() will then re-enable it
- this achieves the expected behaviour, whether nesting occurred
before that function was called or not.
Note: it is difficult to provide a default definition of
lazy_mmu_state_t for architectures implementing lazy_mmu, because
that definition would need to be available in
arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h and adding a new generic
#include there is very tricky due to the existing header soup.
Yeah, I was wondering about exactly that.
In particular because LAZY_MMU_DEFAULT etc resides somewehere compeltely
different.
Which raises the question: is using a new type really of any benefit here?
Can't we just use an "enum lazy_mmu_state" and call it a day?
I could envision something completely different for this type on s390,
e.g. a pointer to a per-cpu structure. So I would really ask to stick
with the current approach.
Would that integrate well with LAZY_MMU_DEFAULT etc?
Hmm... I though the idea is to use LAZY_MMU_* by architectures that
want to use it - at least that is how I read the description above.
It is only kasan_populate|depopulate_vmalloc_pte() in generic code
that do not follow this pattern, and it looks as a problem to me.
Yes, that's why I am asking.
What kind of information (pointer to a per-cpu structure) would you want
to return, and would handling it similar to how
pagefault_disable()/pagefault_enable() e.g., using a variable in
"current" to track the nesting level avoid having s390x to do that?
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
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