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Re: [PATCH v2 13/17] xen/riscv: Implement p2m_entry_from_mfn() and support PBMT configuration


  • To: Oleksii Kurochko <oleksii.kurochko@xxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 13:31:12 +0200
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On 15.07.2025 16:47, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
> On 7/1/25 5:08 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 10.06.2025 15:05, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>> --- a/xen/arch/riscv/p2m.c
>>> +++ b/xen/arch/riscv/p2m.c
>>> @@ -345,6 +345,26 @@ static pte_t *p2m_get_root_pointer(struct p2m_domain 
>>> *p2m, gfn_t gfn)
>>>       return __map_domain_page(p2m->root + root_table_indx);
>>>   }
>>>   
>>> +static int p2m_type_radix_set(struct p2m_domain *p2m, pte_t pte, 
>>> p2m_type_t t)
>> See comments on the earlier patch regarding naming.
>>
>>> +{
>>> +    int rc;
>>> +    gfn_t gfn = mfn_to_gfn(p2m->domain, mfn_from_pte(pte));
>> How does this work, when you record GFNs only for Xenheap pages?
> 
> I think I don't understand what is an issue. Could you please provide
> some extra details?

Counter question: The mfn_to_gfn() you currently have is only a stub. It only
works for 1:1 mapped domains. Can you show me the eventual final implementation
of the function, making it possible to use it here? Having such stubs, and not
even annotated in any way, is imo a problem: People may thing they're fine to
use when really they aren't.

>>> +static pte_t p2m_entry_from_mfn(struct p2m_domain *p2m, mfn_t mfn, 
>>> p2m_type_t t, p2m_access_t a)
>>> +{
>>> +    pte_t e = (pte_t) { 1 };
>> What's the 1 doing here?
> 
> Set valid bit of PTE to 1.

But something like this isn't to be done using a plain, unannotated literal
number. Aiui you mean PTE_VALID here.

>>> +    switch ( t )
>>> +    {
>>> +    case p2m_mmio_direct_dev:
>>> +        e.pte |= PTE_PBMT_IO;
>>> +        break;
>>> +
>>> +    default:
>>> +        break;
>>> +    }
>>> +
>>> +    p2m_set_permission(&e, t, a);
>>> +
>>> +    ASSERT(!(mfn_to_maddr(mfn) & ~PADDR_MASK));
>>> +
>>> +    pte_set_mfn(&e, mfn);
>> Based on how things work on x86 (and how I would have expected them to also
>> work on Arm), may I suggest that you set MFN ahead of permissions, so that
>> the permissions setting function can use the MFN for e.g. a lookup in
>> mmio_ro_ranges.
> 
> Sure, just a note that on Arm, the MFN is set last.

That's apparently because they (still) don't have mmio_ro_ranges. That's only
a latent issue (I hope) while they still don't have PCI support.

>>> +    BUG_ON(p2m_type_radix_set(p2m, e, t));
>> I'm not convinced of this error handling here either. Radix tree insertion
>> _can_ fail, e.g. when there's no memory left. This must not bring down Xen,
>> or we'll have an XSA right away. You could zap the PTE, or if need be you
>> could crash the offending domain.
> 
> IIUC what is "zap the PTE", then I will do in this way:
>      if ( p2m_set_type(p2m, e, t) )
>          e.pte = 0;
> 
> But then it will lead to an MMU failure—how is that expected to be handled?
> There’s no guarantee that, at the moment of handling this exception, enough
> memory will be available to set a type for the PTE and also there is not 
> really
> clear how to detect in exception handler that it is needed just to re-try to
> set a type. Or should we just call|domain_crash()|?
> In that case, it seems more reasonable to call|domain_crash() |immediately in
> |p2m_pte_from_mfn().|

As said - crashing the domain in such an event is an option. The question
here is whether to do so right away, or whether to defer that in the hope
that the PTE may not actually be accessed (before being rewritten).

>> In this context (not sure if I asked before): With this use of a radix tree,
>> how do you intend to bound the amount of memory that a domain can use, by
>> making Xen insert very many entries?
> 
> I didn’t think about that. I assumed it would be enough to set the amount of
> memory a guest domain can use by specifying|xen,domain-p2m-mem-mb| in the DTS,
> or using some predefined value if|xen,domain-p2m-mem-mb| isn’t explicitly set.

Which would require these allocations to come from that pool.

> Also, it seems this would just lead to the issue you mentioned earlier: when
> the memory runs out,|domain_crash()| will be called or PTE will be zapped.

Or one domain exhausting memory would cause another domain to fail. A domain
impacting just itself may be tolerable. But a domain affecting other domains
isn't.

Jan



 


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