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Re: [RFC PATCH v2 21/34] x86/msr: Utilize the alternatives mechanism to write MSR
- To: Jürgen Groß <jgross@xxxxxxxx>, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-perf-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-hyperv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-edac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-acpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-hwmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, platform-driver-x86@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- From: Xin Li <xin@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 01:06:56 -0700
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On 4/23/2025 9:05 AM, Jürgen Groß wrote:
It's not a major change, but when it is patched to use the immediate
form MSR write instruction, it's straightforwardly streamlined.
It should be rather easy to switch the current wrmsr/rdmsr paravirt
patching
locations to use the rdmsr/wrmsr instructions instead of doing a call to
native_*msr().
The case of the new immediate form could be handled the same way.
Actually, that is how we get this patch with the existing alternatives
infrastructure. And we took a step further to also remove the pv_ops
MSR APIs...
It looks to me that you want to add a new facility to the alternatives
infrastructure first?
Only the "paravirt" term has been eliminated.
Yes.
But a PV guest doesn't operate at the highest privilege level, which
means MSR instructions typically result in a #GP fault. I actually
think the pv_ops MSR APIs are unnecessary because of this inherent
limitation.
Looking at the Xen MSR code, except PMU and just a few MSRs, it falls
back to executes native MSR instructions. As MSR instructions trigger
#GP, Xen takes control and handles them in 2 ways:
1) emulate (or ignore) a MSR operation and skip the guest instruction.
2) inject the #GP back to guest OS and let its #GP handler handle it.
But Linux MSR exception handler just ignores the MSR instruction
(MCE MSR exception will panic).
So why not let Xen handle all the details which it already tries to do?
Some MSRs are not handled that way, but via a kernel internal emulation.
And those are handled that way mostly due to performance reasons. And some
need special treatment.
(Linux w/ such a change may not be able to run on old Xen hypervisors.)
Yes, and this is something to avoid.
And remember that Linux isn't the only PV-mode guest existing.
BTW, if performance is a concern, writes to MSR_KERNEL_GS_BASE and
MSR_GS_BASE anyway are hpyercalls into Xen.
Yes, and some other MSR writes are just NOPs with Xen-PV.
I will do some cleanup and refactor first.
BTW, at least we can merge the safe() APIs into the non-safe() ones.
Thanks!
Xin
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