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Re: [RISCV] [PATCH 0/7] xen/bitops: Reduce the mess, starting with ffs()


  • To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:33:28 +0100
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On 14.03.2024 15:45, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 5:27 pm, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> Start cleaning it up with ffs() and friends.  Across the board, this adds:
>>
>>  * Functioning bitops without arch-specific asm
> 
> It turns out that RISC-V doesn't have a CLZ instruction in the base
> ISA.  As a consequence, __builtin_ffs() emits a library call to ffs() on
> GCC, or a de Bruijn sequence on Clang.
> 
> The optional Zbb extension adds a CLZ instruction, after which
> __builtin_ffs() emits a very simple sequence.
> 
> This leaves us with several options.
> 
> 1) Put generic_ffs() back in, although if we do this then it's going to
> be out-of-line in lib/ where it can be mostly ignored.
> 
> 2) Require Zbb for Xen.
> 
> 3) Alternative it up with Zbb or generic_ffs().
> 
> 
> I've got half a mind to do 1) irrespective.  It's mostly just shuffling
> logic out of bitops.h into lib/.

Yes. Might also help with the bi-sectability issue you faced.

> I also think we should do option 2 for RISCV.  Given the instruction
> groups that H does mandate, it's unrealistic to expect that such a chip
> wouldn't support Zbb/etc.

I'm not so sure here.

> Also, getting full alternatives working is yet-more work that's not
> trivial at this point in RISCV's development.  I think it is entirely
> reasonable to avoid this work for now, and make it a problem for anyone
> who has an H-capable Zbb-incapable system.  (with a strong implication
> that this is work that probably never needs to be done.)

That's definitely for later.

Jan



 


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