Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] Restricted DMA

[Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 1/7/21 9:42 AM, Claire Chang wrote:

>> Can you explain how ATF gets involved and to what extent it does help,
>> besides enforcing a secure region from the ARM CPU's perpsective? Does
>> the PCIe root complex not have an IOMMU but can somehow be denied access
>> to a region that is marked NS=0 in the ARM CPU's MMU? If so, that is
>> still some sort of basic protection that the HW enforces, right?
> 
> We need the ATF support for memory MPU (memory protection unit).
> Restricted DMA (with reserved-memory in dts) makes sure the predefined memory
> region is for PCIe DMA only, but we still need MPU to locks down PCIe access 
> to
> that specific regions.

OK so you do have a protection unit of some sort to enforce which region
in DRAM the PCIE bridge is allowed to access, that makes sense,
otherwise the restricted DMA region would only be a hint but nothing you
can really enforce. This is almost entirely analogous to our systems then.

There may be some value in standardizing on an ARM SMCCC call then since
you already support two different SoC vendors.

> 
>>
>> On Broadcom STB SoCs we have had something similar for a while however
>> and while we don't have an IOMMU for the PCIe bridge, we do have a a
>> basic protection mechanism whereby we can configure a region in DRAM to
>> be PCIe read/write and CPU read/write which then gets used as the PCIe
>> inbound region for the PCIe EP. By default the PCIe bridge is not
>> allowed access to DRAM so we must call into a security agent to allow
>> the PCIe bridge to access the designated DRAM region.
>>
>> We have done this using a private CMA area region assigned via Device
>> Tree, assigned with a and requiring the PCIe EP driver to use
>> dma_alloc_from_contiguous() in order to allocate from this device
>> private CMA area. The only drawback with that approach is that it
>> requires knowing how much memory you need up front for buffers and DMA
>> descriptors that the PCIe EP will need to process. The problem is that
>> it requires driver modifications and that does not scale over the number
>> of PCIe EP drivers, some we absolutely do not control, but there is no
>> need to bounce buffer. Your approach scales better across PCIe EP
>> drivers however it does require bounce buffering which could be a
>> performance hit.
> 
> Only the streaming DMA (map/unmap) needs bounce buffering.

True, and typically only on transmit since you don't really control
where the sk_buff are allocated from, right? On RX since you need to
hand buffer addresses to the WLAN chip prior to DMA, you can allocate
them from a pool that already falls within the restricted DMA region, right?

> I also added alloc/free support in this series
> (https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1360995/), so dma_direct_alloc() will
> try to allocate memory from the predefined memory region.
> 
> As for the performance hit, it should be similar to the default swiotlb.
> Here are my experiment results. Both SoCs lack IOMMU for PCIe.
> 
> PCIe wifi vht80 throughput -
> 
>   MTK SoC                  tcp_tx     tcp_rx    udp_tx   udp_rx
>   w/o Restricted DMA  244.1     134.66   312.56   350.79
>   w/ Restricted DMA    246.95   136.59   363.21   351.99
> 
>   Rockchip SoC           tcp_tx     tcp_rx    udp_tx   udp_rx
>   w/o Restricted DMA  237.87   133.86   288.28   361.88
>   w/ Restricted DMA    256.01   130.95   292.28   353.19

How come you get better throughput with restricted DMA? Is it because
doing DMA to/from a contiguous region allows for better grouping of
transactions from the DRAM controller's perspective somehow?

> 
> The CPU usage doesn't increase too much either.
> Although I didn't measure the CPU usage very precisely, it's ~3% with a single
> big core (Cortex-A72) and ~5% with a single small core (Cortex-A53).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> Florian


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Florian