Re: [Xen-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Live update boot memory management

[Julien Grall <julien@xxxxxxx>]

On 14/01/2020 14:48, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 14:15 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > On 13/01/2020 11:54, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 17:24 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > So we've settled on a simpler approach — reserve a contiguous region
> > > > of physical memory which *won't* be used for domain pages. Let the boot
> > > > allocator see *only* that region of memory, and plug the rest of the
> > > > memory in later only after doing a full pass of the live update state.
> > It is a bit unclear what the region will be used for. If you plan to put
> > the state of the VMs in it, then you can't possibly use it for boot
> > allocation (e.g frametable) otherwise this may be overwritten when doing
> > the live update.
> Right. This is only for boot time allocations by Xen#2, before it's
> processed the LU data and knows which parts of the rest of memory it
> can use. It allocates its frame table from there, as well as anything
> else it needs to allocate before/while processing the LU data.
It would be worth documenting what is the expectation of the buffer. 
Maybe in xen-command-line along with the rest of the new option you 
introduced? Or in a separate document.
> As an implementation detail, I anticipate that we'll be using the boot
> allocator for that early part from the reserved region, and that the
> switch to using the full available memory (less those pages already in-
> use) will *coincide* with switching to the real heap allocator.
>
> The reserved region *isn't* for the LU data itself. That can be
> allocated from arbitrary pages *outside* the reserved area, in Xen#1.
> Xen#2 can vmap those pages, and needs to avoid stomping on them just
> like it needs to avoid stomping on actual domain-owned pages.
>
> The plan is that Xen#1 allocates arbitrary pages to store the actual LU
> data. Then another page (or higher order allocation if we need >2MiB of
> actual LU data) containing the MFNs of all those data pages. Then we
> need to somehow pass the address of that MFN-list to Xen#2.
>
> My current plan is to put *that* in the first 64 bits of the reserved
> LU bootmem region, and load it from there early in the Xen#2 boot
> process. I'm looking at adding an IND_WRITE64 primitive to the kimage
> processing, to allow it to be trivially appended for kexec_reloc() to
> obey.
Wouldn't it be better to reserve the first 4K page of the LU bootmem region?

Otherwise, you may end up into the same trouble as described above (to a 
lesser extent) if the 64-bit value overwrite anything useful for the 
current Xen. But I guess, you could delay the writing just before you 
jump to xen#2.
Cheers,

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Julien Grall

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