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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce memory block types
- To: Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@xxxxxxx>
- From: David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 09:37:39 +0200
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- Delivery-date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 07:38:00 +0000
- List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>
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On 04/10/2018 19:50, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:45:13 +0200
> David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/2018 17:28, Michal Suchánek wrote:
>
>>>
>>> The state of the art is to determine what to do with hotplugged
>>> memory in userspace based on platform and virtualization type.
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>>>
>>> Changing the default to depend on the driver that added the memory
>>> rather than platform type should solve the issue of VMs growing
>>> different types of memory device emulation.
>>
>> Yes, my original proposal (this patch) was to handle it in the kernel
>> for known types. But as we learned, there might be some use cases that
>> might still require to make a decision in user space.
>>
>> So providing the user space either with some type hint (auto-online
>> vs. standby) or the driver that added it (system vs. hyper-v ...)
>> would solve the issue.
>
> Is that not available in the udev event?
>
Not that I am aware. Memory blocks "devices" have no drivers.
ls -la /sys/devices/system/memory/memory0/subsystem/drivers
total 0
(add_memory()/add_memory_resource() creates the memory block devices
when called from a driver)
> Thanks
>
> Michal
>
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
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