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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 1/6] xen-blkfront: quiesce/unquiesce queue instead of start/stop queues

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:06:28PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:20:56PM +0100, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 07:15:56AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > stopping queue may cause race and may not stop the queue really
> > > after the API returns, and we have improved quiescing
> > > interface and it really can block dispatching once it returns.
> > > 
> > > So switch to quiesce/unquiece like what we did on other drivers
> > > (NVMe, NBD, mtip32xx, ...)
> > > 
> > > The blk_mq_stop_hw_queues() and blk_mq_start_stopped_hw_queues()
> > > used in blkif_queue_rq() and blkif_interrupt() are for congestion
> > > control, we leave it as it is since it is safe for this usage.
> > 
> > Again I yet don't understand the difference between those two, neither
> > why start/stop is not fixed instead of introducing quiesce/unquiece.
> There are two usages covered by start/stop now:
> - congestion control for handling queue busy(BLK_STS_RESOURCE), now
> only xen-blkfront and virtio-blk use that
> - other usages, such as in xlvbd_release_gendisk(), for blocking
> IO to driver/device
> For the 1st case, it is usually fine to use stop/start
> For the 2nd case, stop queue isn't enough, and we can't guarantee 
> no IO is dispatched to device/driver after returning from stop queue,
> for details. Most of this usage have been fixed by  Sagi Grimberg:

OK, so basically after calling stop the queue might still be running.

> We can't use quiesce/unquiesce for replacing stop/start in the
> case of BLK_STS_RESOURCE, because quiesce may sleep, and we needn't
> block IO for this usage actually.

Do you mean that quiesce/unquiesce cannot be used while holding a

> > Not to mention that start/stop is not documented, which makes all this
> > even more fun.
> Did you read comment of blk_mq_stop_hw_queue() and
> blk_mq_stop_hw_queues() in linus tree?

OK, this has been added very recently.

> > 
> > Anyway I would like to ask, is the way to re-start a stopped queue the
> > same way to unquiece?
> I don't know what your exact question, but it is definitely that
> unquiesce is counter part of quiesce, and quiesce/unquiesce doesn't
> depend on 'stopped' state any more if you take a look at the code.
> > 
> > If not I would rather prefer that start/stop or quiece/unquiece is
> > used exclusively, in order to not make the code even more complex. It
> I do not think the code becomes more complex, please see the line change
> of this patch:

Before this patch blkfront used:

After the patch it uses:

It's not about line changes, but the amount of interfaces blkfront has
to use. Apart from introducing the quiesce/unquiesce, you also
introduce a call to blk_mq_run_hw_queues, which is not documented in
the commit message.

> > seems fairly easy to mess up and call "start" on a "quiesced" queue
> > (or the other way around).
> Definitely it shouldn't be worried because start/stop is removed
> in this patchset.

Hm, how is that? I haven't seen any patch to blkfront to remove the
usage of start/stop, am I missing something?


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