Re: [Xen-devel] PV-vNUMA issue: topology is misinterpreted by the guest

[Juergen Gross <jgross@xxxxxxxx>]

On 07/27/2015 12:43 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:35 AM, Juergen Gross <jgross@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 07/24/2015 06:44 PM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> > > On 07/24/2015 12:39 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
> > > > I don't say mangling cpuids can't solve the scheduling problem. It
> > > > surely can. But it can't solve the scheduling problem without hiding
> > > > information like number of sockets or cores which might be required
> > > > for license purposes. If we don't care, fine.
> > > (this is somewhat repeating the email I just sent)
> > >
> > > Why can's we construct socket/core info with CPUID (and *possibly* ACPI
> > > changes) that we present a reasonable (licensing-wise) picture?
> > >
> > > Can you suggest an example where it will not work and then maybe we can
> > > figure something out?
> >
> > Let's assume a software with license based on core count. You have a
> > system with a 2 8 core processors and hyperthreads enabled, summing up
> > to 32 logical processors. Your license is valid for up to 16 cores, so
> > running the software on bare metal on your system is fine.
> >
> > Now you are running the software inside a virtual machine with 24 vcpus
> > in a cpupool with 24 logical cpus limited to 12 cores (6 cores of each
> > processor). As we have to hide hyperthreading in order to not to have
> > to pin each vcpu to just a single logical processor, the topology
> > resulting from this picture will have to present 24 cores. The license
> > will not cover this hardware.
> But how does doing a PV topology help this situation?  Because we're
> telling one thing to the OS (via our PV interface) and another thing
> to applications (via direct CPUID access)?
Exactly.

In my example it would even work to not modify the cpuid information at
all. The kernel wouldn't try to be extremely clever regarding scheduling
and the user land would see the cpuid information from the real hardware
(only the 12 cores it is running on, of course).


Juergen

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