Re: [Xen-devel] cpufreq implementation for OMAP under xen hypervisor.

[Andrii Tseglytskyi <andrii.tseglytskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Stefano,

Thank you for explanation.
I think this requires more and deeper investigation, but for sure dom0
must be able to do this.
Let us investigate this.

Thank you,

Regards,
Andrii

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Stefano Stabellini
<stefano.stabellini@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Andrii Tseglytskyi wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>> <stefano.stabellini@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2014, Andrii Tseglytskyi wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Stefano, Ian,
>> >>
>> >> Could you please clarify the following point:
>> >>
>> >> I agree that decision about frequency change should be taken by Xen
>> >> hypervisor. But what about hardware frequency changing?
>> >> In general when frequency changed to bigger value (for example from 1
>> >> GHz to 1.5 GHz) for ARM kernels sequence looks like the following:
>> >>
>> >> 1) cpufreq governor decides that frequency should be changed. This
>> >> decision is taken after analysing of CPU performance data taking in
>> >> account governor policy.
>> >> 2) cpufreq governor asks cpufreq driver about new frequency.
>> >> 3) cpufreq driver compares current and target frequencies and asks
>> >> cpufreq regulator about voltage change.
>> >> 4) cpufreq regulator send i2c command to standalone microchip, which
>> >> is responsible for voltage changing.
>> >> 5) cpufreq driver asks clock framework about new frequency for CPU clock
>> >> 6) clock framework performs frequency sanity checks, taking in account
>> >> clock parents and clock divider settings, and call platform specific
>> >> "set_frequency" callback.
>> >> 7) platform specific callback performs proper HW registers
>> >> configuration for newly selected frequency
>> >>
>> >> Also there are some special cases - for example for OMAP5+ when
>> >> frequency is changed to 1.5 GHz+, two additional HW IPs should be
>> >> triggered (ABB and DCC, if someone is familiar with OMAP5+ )
>> >>
>> >> So, for generic ARM kernel we have 3 entities to change frequency:
>> >>
>> >> - cpufreq governor
>> >> - cpufreq driver
>> >> - cpufreq regulator
>> >>
>> >> + 2 additional IP for OMAP5+
>> >> - ABB
>> >> - DCC
>> >>
>> >> Taking in account all above, it looks like it would be better to
>> >> implement only Xen cpufreq governor. Xen will take a decision about
>> >> new frequency, and kernel dom0 will perform other steps. Dom0 contains
>> >> all generic and platform specific frameworks, needed for frequency
>> >> changing.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think ?
>> >
>> > Keep in mind that the architecture must be able to handle the case where
>> > dom0 has only 1 or 2 vcpus on a 4 or 8 cores system with multiple
>> > physical cpus.
>> > Could dom0 change the frequency of a physical core or a physical cpu is
>> > not even running on? If that is not a problem, because cpus and
>> > frequency changing are decoupled enough in Linux to allow it, then I am
>> > OK with it. But I suspect they are not.
>> >
>>
>> Not sure that I got your point correctly - dom0 will change frequency
>> on physical CPU.
>> And in case of OMAP - this changing affects on both ARM physical cpus
>> - changing is coupled.
>> In case of other ARM platforms - changing may be not coupled (I've
>> heard that Snapdragon can change cpu freqs independently on each
>> physical cpu)
>
> Let me explain with a concrete example.
>
> Let's suppose that the platform has 2 physical cpus, each cpu has 4
> cores.  Let's also supposed that dom0 has only 2 vcpus, currently
> running on core0 and core1 of cpu0.
>
> In this case would dom0 be able to change the frequency of core3 of
> cpu1, given that is not even running on it?
> If it can be done without any hacks, then we can go ahead with this
> approach.



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