Re: [Xen-devel] kexec -e in PVHVM guests (and in PV).

[David Vrabel <david.vrabel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 30/06/14 16:36, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> Hey, 
> 
> I had on my todo list an patch from Olaf patch that shuffles
> the shared_page to be in the 0xFE700000 addr (in the "gap"
> with newer QEMU's) which unfortunately did not work when
> migrating on 32-bit PVHVM guests on Xen 4.1.
> 
> The commit is 9d02b43dee0d7fb18dfb13a00915550b1a3daa9f
> "xen PVonHVM: use E820_Reserved area for shared_info" and it
> ended up being reverted. I dusted it off and I think I found
> the original bug (and fixed it), but while digging in this
> the more I discovered a ton more of issues.
> 
> A bit about the use case - the 'kexec -e' allows one to
> restart the Linux kernel without a reboot. It is not a crash kernel
> so it is just meant to restart and work, and then restart, etc.
> 
> The 'kdump -c' (crash) is a different use case and I had not
> thought much about it. But I think that all of the solutions
> I am thinking of will make it also work. (so you could
> do kexec-crash -> kexec-e->kexec-e>kexec-crash->kexec-e, and
> so, if you would want to).

These are equivalent from your point of view -- the only different is
who does the relocation of the image to its final location.  kexec -e
does it kexec time; kdump -c does it in advance and requires a region of
memory to be reserved.

>  7). Grants. Andrew Cooper hinted at this and a bit of experimentation
>      shows that Xen hypervisor will indeed smack down any guest that
>      tries to re-use its "old" grants. I am not even sure if the
>      GNTTAB_setup call is returning the "old" grant frames.
>      His suggestion was 'GNTTAB_reset' to well, reset everything.

You also need consider grants that are in use (mapped or copied to) by
the backend -- the backend might scribble all over your kexec'd state.

> My thinking is that a lot of this code is shared with PV (and PVH)
> once this is fixed we could do full scale 'kexec -e' in an PV
> (or PVH) type guest. Doing dom0 kexec -e would be an interesting
> experiment :-(

With some toolstack/Xen help you could probably destroy a domain without
freeing its memory, create a new domain (reusing all the memory) and
jump to the kexec image.

For kdump use cases, pause on crash and then have a helper domain with
permission to rummage through the crashed domain perform the crash
dump/analysis.

I think something like this would be a lot easier than a purely in-guest
kexec solution.

David

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