[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes [and 1 more messages]
On 07/19/2012 04:43 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: Andre Przywara writes ("Re: [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes [and 1 more messages]"):On 07/18/2012 01:00 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:What is the maximum number of NUMA nodes we might expect to see on a single system in the next five years? I would argue that 32 is too optimistic. 128 or 256 seem like more reasonable upper bounds.Wow, what are you talking about? To calm this down from the AMD side: The current Opteron NUMA architecture is limited to exactly 8 nodes. This has ever been the case since the release of Opteron and changing this is not trivial and will not happen in any near future. In general I don't think we will see much bigger NUMA systems, but more cluster like architectures.One of these `more cluster like architectures', if it has shared memory at all, may well end up being most easily represented in the model supported by Xen as a NUMA host with a large number of nodes. We need to plan for the software that we are writing today to work for at least the next 5 years /even if we intend to replace the algorithm in the next release/. It is very difficult to foresee what might happen to hardware in that time. But it's OK, we don't need to panic. We just need a safety catch which stops this algorithm running in situations where it won't work. Following a discussion with Dario, AIUI he plans to implement a rule that it will bail on systems with more than 8 NUMA nodes. That is releasable in 4.2 and ought to be satisfactory for you ? Absolutely, that's fine. I just wanted to make sure that we don't drop the patches at all because of the theoretical fear of a large NUMA box lingering somewhere around the corner... Thanks, Andre. -- Andre Przywara AMD-Operating System Research Center (OSRC), Dresden, Germany _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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