Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] remove blocked time accounting from xen "clockchip"

[Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:57:04AM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 19.01.12 at 20:42, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I finally got some time to look at them and I think they are these ones:
> > 
> > git log --oneline 
> > e03b644fe68b1c6401465b02724d261538dba10f..3c404b578fab699c4708279938078d9404b
> > 255a4 
> > 3c404b5 KVM guest: Add a pv_ops stub for steal time
> > c9aaa89 KVM: Steal time implementation
> > 9ddabbe KVM: KVM Steal time guest/host interface
> > 4b6b35f KVM: Add constant to represent KVM MSRs enabled bit in guest/host 
> > interface
> > 
> > What is interesting is that they end up inserting a bunch of:
> > 
> >  
> > +       if (steal_account_process_tick())
> > +               return;
> > +
> > 
> > in irqtime_account_process_tick and in account_process_tick.
> 
> And this (particularly the "return" part of it) is what I have a hard
> time to understand: How can it be correct to not do any of the
> other accounting? After all, the function calls only
> account_steal_time(), but its certainly going to be common that
> part of the time was stolen, and part was spent executing.
> 
> Further, it's being called only from the process tick accounting

Also from 'irqtime_account_idle_ticks' which is called from
account_idle_ticks (if tsc is part of the picture) which is called
from tick_nohz_idle_exit. So at the end of the idle loop the idle
time is accounted for.

> functions, but clearly part of idle or interrupt time can also be
> stolen.

It looks as if the other interrupt times: so the CPUTIME_SOFTIRQ and
CPUTIME_IRQ are completly skipped - but only if there is a "steal time".

The 'steal time' from the KVM is based on the host scheduler notion
of 'run_delay'. I think the 'run_delay' is based purely on block I/O
delay or swap I/O delay. So if the host is not running in any of those
issues, then the 'steal_account_process_tick' won't have any values.
And the 'if (..) return;' wont be taken and it will continue to attribute
the other 'time' slots with appropiate values.

If we have CPU intensive guests that are overcommitted, the guest 
/proc/schedstats
won't show the delay between the host putting it on a CPU as as 'steal' time
but rather as 'idle' time - I think?

That seems odd. I am probably misreading how 'run_delay' gets computed.


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