Re: [Xen-devel] Xen security advisory CVE-2011-1898 - VT-d (PCI passthrough) MSI

["Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>>> On 13.05.11 at 13:20, Joanna Rutkowska <joanna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> wrote:
> On 05/13/11 13:11, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 12:08 +0100, Joanna Rutkowska wrote:
>>> On 05/13/11 10:08, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> 
>>>> Finally, wouldn't killing all guests that potentially could have caused
>>>> the problem be a better measure than bringing down the host?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Killing the guest might no longer be enough, because the guest might
>>> have already programmed the device to keep sending malicious MSIs.
>> 
>> Is it even possible to know which guest triggered the MSI, or is the
>> best you can do the set of all guests with an MSI capable device passed
>> through?
>> 
> 
> Ah, probably you're right -- if we have more than one driver domain,
> then I think LAPIC would not tell us which device genrated the MSI.

That's why I wrote "killing all guests that potentially could have ...".

> In fact it's not really correct to assume that it must have been a guest
> with a "MSI capable device" -- note that we don't trigger the MSI via
> the official MSI triggering mechanism.

You lost me here. Neither am I clear about what "non-official"
triggering mechanism we use, nor can I see how a guest without
any MSI-capable device would be able to trigger the problem.

And even if things are as you say, it would still seem better to kill
all guests with *any* passed through device, than bring down the
entire host (there could e.g. be dozens of innocent pv guests and
only a single hvm one that has a problematic device assigned).

Jan


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