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Re: [Xen-devel] Shared memory and event channel
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- From: Ritu kaur <ritu.kaur.us@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:26:17 -0800
- Cc: xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxx>, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@xxxxxxxxxx>, Daniel Stodden <Daniel.Stodden@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi,
I have tried proxy client and server model with server running in dom0 and client in domU. It intercepts ioctls and passes it to dom0 and able to read registers. This is done via socket calls. However, Citrix doesn't allow socket calls into dom0 and I had to tweak firewall setting(basically I cleared everything for testing purposes).
Need a clarification, using pci passthrough I believe it remove access to device from dom0 and attaches the device to a domU and from then on can only be accessed via that domU or is it possible to have dom0 and a single domU gain access to device using pci passthrough? I guess not, thought of checking.
Thanks
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, <djmagee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What is the data you’re trying to access in the device
registers? If it’s statistics, which you gave as an example, then
why would a domain want to read statistics for a card that shared by many other
guests, of which it has no knowledge? In fact, I’m struggling to
think of any situation where data applicable to the physical card that’s
carrying packets for every guest on the box could be useable by one single
guest.
Can’t you just write a daemon in dom0 that reads the data
you’re interested in and makes it available to the domUs via a simple
network service?
Hi Ian,
Thanks for your inputs, I skimmed through Intel 82576 SR-IOV document and it
looks like it needs hardware support and I don't think our hardware has it(will
double check with our team). I believe currently there is no good solution
other than using pci passthrough(with a single domU access). I just want to
bring one thing and I hope it was not missed out from my earlier email i.e
"The NIC registers are memory mapped, can I take "machine memory
address space(which is in dom0)" and remap it to domU's such that I can
get multiple domU access. "
The above soln is just a thought, not sure it's feasible.
Thanks
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 14:47
+0000, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:38:26AM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:16 +0000, Ritu kaur wrote:
> > >
> > > All I need to is access NIC registers via domU's(network
controller
> > > will still be working normally). Using PCI passthrough solves
the
> > > problem for a domU, however, it doesn't solve when multiple
domU's
> > > wanting to read NIC registers(ex. statistics).
> >
> > Direct access to hardware registers and availability of the device to
> > multiple guest domains are mutually exclusive configurations under
Xen
> > (in the absence of additional technologies such as SR-IOV).
> >
> > The paravirtual front and back devices contain no hardware specific
> > functionality, in this configuration all hardware specific knowledge
is
> > contained in the driver in domain 0. Guests use regular L2 or L3
> > mechanisms such as bridging, NAT or routing to obtain a path to the
> > physical hardware but they are never aware of that physical hardware.
> >
> > PCI passthrough allows a guest direct access to a PCI device but this
is
> > obviously incompatible with access from multiple guests (again,
unless
> > you have SR-IOV or something similar)
>
> What if the netback was set be able to work in guest mode? This way you
> could export it out to the guests?
Like a driver domain model?
That would work (I think) but is still not
the same as having multiple domain's with access to the physical
registers. netback in a guest works in exactly the same as how it works
for domain 0.
Ian.
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