Re: [Xen-API] Minimal OpenStack for XCP

[John Garbutt <John.Garbutt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I leading up the OpenStack effort at Citrix. Hopefully I can answer any 
questions with XCP + OpenStack.

Certainly Rackspace have their public cloud running XenServer and OpenStack, so 
it certainly works.

Just to be clear, it is probably fair to say OpenStack is replacing the XCP 
pool concept. But OpenStack is using the XCP features for networking, storage, 
migration etc. It hasn't really duplicated any of that stuff, although Quantum 
is going a little down that route. The main configuration pain is ensuring that 
all the different components of the system are wired together in a compatible 
way.

In terms of getting started quickly, while admittedly not helpful when heading 
towards production deployments, you can use DevStack with XenServer:
http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServer/DevStack
The main issue is getting the network configuration correct.

I am looking to create a guide of using the Ubuntu packages on Ubuntu 12.04 
DomU to act as the OpenStack controller, but I haven't completed that work yet. 
Indeed I would like to script that all, and release a supplemental pack that 
would implement that. But not quite there yet.

Let me know how I can help you both. What are you trying to achieve? Web based 
access to XCP? CloudFoundry install?

I hope that helps,
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-api-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xen-api-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jakob Praher
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:57 PM
> To: andrew.lukoshko@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: xen-api@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Minimal OpenStack for XCP
> 
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> Hi all,
> 
> no advice from my side but a definite "me too" on this. Many services target 
> the
> openstack API out-of-the box. E.g. there is this cloud foundry BOSH cloud
> provider inerface, which already targets Openstack - seems like a duplicate
> effort to build everything on top of XCP. Although I like the lean interface 
> XCP
> provides.
> 
> Best,
> Jakob
> 
> Am Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2012 14:47 CEST, "andrew.lukoshko@xxxxxxxxx"
> <andrew.lukoshko@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm interested in deploying OpenStack Folsom for XCP, but seems like
> > it's not so easy.
> > Distribution's OpenStack packages has huge dependencies because they
> > try to duplicate functionality already included in XCP. It also make
> > configuration tricky.
> >
> > Wishlist:
> > - really minimal services set
> > - rely on XCP builtin features (networking, shared storage, migrations
> > etc.), don't duplicate them in DomU.
> >
> > In general, I expect OpenStack-based XenCenter replacement that will
> > only use XAPI and won't provide own services (or a minumal really
> > required set).
> >
> > Any advice would be very helpful.
> >
> >
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